%PDF-1.4 % Member since December 2002; From: Reno, NV; Mr. Surfacer Drying time before sanding. It dries pretty fast but requires a really good shaking then stiring prior to use to get it mixed up evenly, otherwise it'd look just fine like white glue when I apply it but will dry to look like a clear thick layer of cement with little minute chunks of broken down white putty in there. How to use Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000 and 1200 - a tutorial. 0000000920 00000 n 90% isopropl alcohol will also work great removing Mr Surfacer and it (the alcohol) will not have any adverse effects on the plastic. $1130 ($22.60 / Fl Oz) Brand. Actually only used the black. "&ndOVd4e]=N:"zNzF-=o92dY@?_y?+q-RcmreMbHzgkD7KVpN6u/RFs\K 7%U0gZEd6c,S'?C7qEG_ac9Y(. I have a pot of Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Black and as per usual all the instructions on the side are in Japanese. 0000000656 00000 n I awlays for get to do it when I run into a time when I need it. Can't hurt to try itthe. . If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Sounds like the current wisdom for thinning paint over the black base. The pieces have been primed with Mr Surfacer Primer and are dry to the touch. I just did some sanding. I recommend using a mixing bottle becau. I avoid using accelerator because it usually does more harm than good, smells like it's loaded with VOC's and that's probably why it leaves its mark on any unprotected plastic. Under $8.00. March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips. Very odd, root and twig, very odd indeed. xb```a``"(a@ .2010E+81F `_s66R1L@l` endstream endobj 12 0 obj<> endobj 14 0 obj<> endobj 15 0 obj<>/Font<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 16 0 obj<> endobj 17 0 obj<> endobj 18 0 obj<> endobj 19 0 obj[/ICCBased 22 0 R] endobj 20 0 obj<> endobj 21 0 obj<>stream To participate you must either login or register for an account. 0000008369 00000 n At the moment, I am practising to put on a primer coat on plastic spoons, using Mr Surfacer 1500 and the Mr Color Thinner. And much more! Powered by Invision Community, LETS GET WET! GROUP BUILD IS NOW ON. It also seems to be cured as I used super glue atop is with no ill affects. Sometimes I use a combiniation of the two. Cobus, Mr. Surfacer #1000 (gray): Comes in a bottle or spray can. I use the levelling thinner with Mr. Hobby paints and while it smells a little it is manageable indoors, the cellulose thinner is much stronger and while I don't mind dipping a brush in it and getting the bottle top on again ASAP the idea of atomising it in a spray.. well, it's not for me thanks. My local model shop advised not to do so, otherwise it will dry out. Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 grey in a can is my go to primer for all the masters we get in and it can really sort out lines on 3D stuff with a bit of practice. Or have tremendous patience building up the paint layers. Surfacer 1500 Gray: https://amzn.to/3P8NahaMixing Bottles: https://amzn.to/3VZfaWL3M Reusable Respirator: https://amzn.to/3ICLLwnAmazon Canada: Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black: https://amzn.to/3XtCT2HMixing Bottles: https://amzn.to/3EtL3ja3M Reusable Respirator: https://amzn.to/3Ya9f1RSome of the links are referral links and Amazon referral links. HW0e H``Av@R:/*riY?~>~&04Ol?4w&4CSaZERG!~:2|emRE25q'EqqfW|()28sp::|3,)+Xc")jSu[$)sOT?I'iYbI,Y&iT)Bbt[?%0?:eAYB+QqcI~n5c! I haven't used 500 either, butI believe it goes, in order of coarsest to finest, 500 -1000 -1200. Mr. Surfacer #1000 (white): A great base for colorful, brightly finished aircraft or cars. I apply multiple thin layers and use leveling thinner. 0000008213 00000 n . The instructions give no indication about 'drying' time, or how long it takes to become safe to handle or polish, so I attempted to polish the surface more-or-less immediately after taking the photo: It certainly polishes nicely, and doing so brings out quite an authentic metallic sheen. Cookie Notice I sprayed the 1:48 F-15e with it, thinned down with cellulose thinner, and.. firstly it kept getting stuck in the airbrush at 15/20 psi or barely coming out, so i had to turn the pressure up to around. Sign up for a new account in our community. Depends on how thick it is. trailer <]>> startxref 0 %%EOF 13 0 obj<>stream Posted by espins1 on Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:05 PM . To add to what Jeff said, if you run a Q-tip saturated w/ nail polish remover (acetone based) over the putty, not only does it remove a lot of the unwanted putty, it greatly reduces drying to allowing for much quicker sanding. Powered by Invision Community, mostly post WW2 British types and also Russian stuff, especially the SU-27 for some entirely obscure reason :). After a couple of hours' drying time, and using fresh Tamiya tape, I laid a segment down over each combination - Aluminium over primer and plastic; Polished Aluminium over primer and plastic: . Time: newly listed; Price . Mr. Surfacer Drying time before sanding 7466 views. 0000002070 00000 n Sign up for a new account in our community. Grey. HI Fellow builders in today video, im using the airbrush. and our View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. It's a pain, but it works for me. This is a black version of the Finishing Surfacer.This black base allows the omission of the painting of a black coat before applying a metallic color and reduces the thickness of painting. Thicker applications are probably better achieved with Mr Surfacer 500 or Mr Dissolved Putty anyway. Great "how to" article Seor Swanny, but I've got a question for you. Airbrushing has never caused problems. I have gone through a couple bottles now with 100% perfect results. It settles relatively rapidly, and it takes a surprising amount of mixing. Any tips on thinning ratio for this product? Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Gray Bottle. I might have to look again to see if they also carry the 500 and the 1k in a different area. 0000005545 00000 n Does anyone have a rough ideo how long I need to wait before sanding after applying Mr. Surfacer to fix seams and scratches? hey swanny, I recently got myself a bottle of gunze liquid (it says "dissolved") putty along with somere-supplies forbase white 1000 (mr surfacer in white =P) have you ever tried those or know any comparison between that and the mr surfacer 500? Mr. Surfacer can be thinned with Floquil Diosol also or Liquid cement but why? I'd just add some Mr Levelling thinner til it's the consistency of semi-skimmed milk. GSI Creos. Mr Surfacer 1000 makes a great primer. ///Mflossin, Let dry, then give it a coat of 1000 and a light wet sanding. I've been meaning to try it but I also have the stuff in rattle cans, which has been working well for me to date! I've used the Mr. Surfacer 1000 White from the rattle cans and liked it but didn't like the control of the can. Used it a couple of times and have found a ratio of 70:30 mr surfacer to levellling thinner works well. Does Mr. Surfacer have to be sanded within a certain amount of time like gap filling glues that can dry harder than the plastic? Thanks and cheers! My first time using this brand of primer but the results were great! I've sprinkled baking soda over CA.. Sets it right up. Price. Detail Paint Brushes Set 10pcs Miniature Brushes for Fine Detailing & Art Painting - Acrylic, Watercolor,Oil,Models, Warhammer 40k. Apply in multiple layers to get the perfect finish. Although that on first look seems a bit much. "Thin as milk" 7:3 for me with Leveling thinner being the majority of the mix. I have some different consistancy mixtures laying on the workbench that have been used and added to or remixed for years now. 30 psi! It dries pretty fast but requires a really good shaking then stiring prior to use to get it mixed up evenly, otherwise it'd look just fine like white glue when I apply it but will dry to look like a clear thick layer of cement with little minute chunks of broken down white putty in there. Clear editor. I have a pot of Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Black and as per usual all the instructions on the side are in Japanese. Can't help with the Mr "dissolved" putty I'm afraid. What about brush painting? hey swanny, I recently got myself a bottle of gunze liquid (it says "dissolved") putty along with somere-supplies forbase white 1000 (mr surfacer in white =P) have you ever tried those or know any comparison between that and the mr surfacer 500? Looking at a new jar of 1500 black it seems quite thin already. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! It has very low tack making it ideal for masking over painted areas. I leave all putty, including Mr. Surfacer, on for about 45 min - 1 hr. Air pressure at about 18psi, range at 4 to 6 inches. Pasted as rich text. MR. FINISHING SURFACER 1500 BLACK 2019.07.16; SF288 . Have seen videos where this has been used and it looks great, but cannot find anything that says how you thin it, what size airbrush needle to use or pressure to spray at. Forgive my cluelessness about this. I use the grey version with levelling thinner. Comes in either bottle or spray can. Judge by consistency not ratios. I have never had a problem in three years' usagewith both 500and 1000. My preferred is Black Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 that I use as a primer undercoat. CO-Z Lighted Airbrush Paint Spray Booth with Exhaust Fan, Paint Booth for Airbrushing with LED Lights, Turntable and Filter Hose, Airbrush Spray Booth Kit for Painting Model Craft Hobby DIY, Master Airbrush Brand Lighted Portable Hobby Airbrush Spray Booth with LED Lighting for Painting All Art, Cake, Craft, Hobby, Nails, T-Shirts & More. To participate you must either login or register for an account. At the moment, I am practising to put on a primer coat on plastic spoons, using Mr Surfacer 1500 and the Mr Color Thinner. By 237 ratings. It's been about 90 mins. Really like the Mr. Surfacer 500.does it exactly what I needed it to. Oh and yes feel free to just mention the coffee and the jon etc ok. Are you guys sick of me asking about this yet? CA to fill the gap,sink marks, depressions etc. I leave all putty, including Mr. Surfacer, on for about 45 min - 1 hr. They carry the spray bottle of the 1200 at my lhs, but I haven't picked it up as I'm not too big on spraycans. Looking at a new jar of 1500 black it seems quite thin already. Once cured, neither lacquers, enamels or acrylics have reacted with the primer. Too many kits so little free time. Mr Surfacer 1500 thinning ratio By Dainis March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips Dainis Members 11 Posted March 6, 2017 I have used mr surfacer 1000 and 1200 thinned 50/50 with levelling thinner. 0000011484 00000 n Also what different grade does it come in? I really prefer the old Testors low form square liquid cement bottles (that have the brush in the jar as they do not tip over like the new tall cylindrical ones now do) and I have saved my oldjars for just this purpose built mixture. Color. YepI use the nail polish remover trick on the putty. I put some on about a half hour ago and it looks cured. 99 ($2.00/Fl Oz) . It's going to be a lot of sanding this weekendtrying to get the model up to the 75% complete point. The only time i have used a black base is for the alclad metallics. 0000001048 00000 n March 3, 2016 in Paint. The 'Green stuff' mixture can be made more thin with the addition of more liquid cement. Recommended Posts. Usually more than 50/50. Both work fine. I let the surfacer dry for 10 minutes and it was rock hard..could sand with no issue at all. Shawn Quote ///Mflossin One of the reasons it's great as a . Drying Time For Mr. Surfacer? Think the secret is that you really have to thin the paints to about 60:40 thinner to paint. GSNeil. Visit the GSI Creos Store. Needs to be thinned significantly. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. That's classic Alan, but the real question is - how long to you spend on the Jon? Our community is FREE to join. By GSNeil February 14, 2006 in Modelling Q&A: Tips, Techniques, and Photography. General Discussion - NO POLITICS, The land that time (and common decency) forgot, Where am I going, and what am I doing in this hand basket. Display as a link instead, Im really interested in the buffing ideaI agree that its great for filling little holes but that sounds very interesting. I bought a big bottle of Zip Kicker years ago, still using it, and it has never had a negative effect on plastic. Does anyone have any tips? December 8, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. I can wait to run some sandpaper over it if you couldn't tell! By Regards, I'll give the 70/30 ratio a go. I usually try to apply the CA and sand it out somewhere between the "still tacky" and "hard as a rock" stage. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. I leave it about an hour or even less. The Spray version of the popular Mr Surfacer 500, supplied in a 100ml spray can. Mr Finishing surfacer 1500 Black ,ultrafine Mr Surfacer ideal for final finishing ,rapid drying. I thin it idk roughly 50:50 and it sprays well. Your previous content has been restored. 50+ viewed in past week. I know about the health implications and now always spray with an open window and an extractor booth. Tangentally, have you tried the black 1500? FAA/USNFAW GB, By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. Let dry, then give it a coat of 1000 and a light wet sanding. Large Scale Modeller For now I have decided to use brush painting instead of airbrush, because my home environment is not suitable for spraying. VALLEJO 73821 RUST TEXTURE - DIOARAMA MODEL KITT di Tokopedia Promo Pengguna Baru Cicilan 0% Kurir Instan. If you don't want too much smell try stynylrez, of just use a tamiya grey paint. Need more help contact me through http://www.afrikakorps.org/and then click link to Nacht hope this adds to readers work benches for another method or tool to use when needed Our community is FREE to join. You can color it with paint as well to derive different undercoat or primer colors to chip through the overlying paint to achieve great weathering looks for your paint. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. If you look closely you will see that I have an extra-fine version in pale blue and used it to correct a problem on the PE siren using it just like Mr. Surfacer 1200 to fill minor imperfections. Can I premix my Surfacer 1500 and the thinner, for the purpose of consistency and convenience? Your link has been automatically embedded. The paint is a little hot, but I've brushed 500 and sanded to a smooth finish. Pasted as rich text. i think we're a little short on the bananna oil here in the states 500 coarser in grit than is 1000 or than is 1200 smaller the number the coarser the finish as in sandpaper nomenclature. Ive been using all of there primers for my jobs. ROTFLMAO. . It's the other way around actually. -=Ryan=- Privacy Policy. Get the best deals for mr surfacer 1500 black at eBay.com. - Subscribe and get notified when we release new videos: https://bit.ly/3qhUES7 - Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AGunpla - Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_agunpla_ - Follow me on https://twitter.com/Agunpla1Thanks for watching and keep building!=====================================================Things I used: Amazon US:Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black: https://amzn.to/3YapuNmMr. Thanks. How hot is this stuff? Have you heard of this wonder filler yet? definitely just as funky smelling yet different than L/T .doesn't hurt the plastic either; maybe it's just. How big of a seam are you filling? It's still best not to sniff it though. 0000008536 00000 n It's easy! By You can post now and register later. Mr. Surfacer 1500 is a more finer finish which will give a really smooth . I have used mr surfacer 1000 and 1200 thinned 50/50 with levelling thinner. $8.00 to $15.00. Head on to their website to check their premium selection of model kits, and a wide selection of paints, tools, building materials, and many more.Links:Masamune Studio: https://www.msmnstudio.com/=====================================================If you liked this video please feel free to check my playlist - Unboxing Playlist: https://bit.ly/39z6cuq - Quick Build Playlist: https://bit.ly/2JySkoS - Custom Build/Paint Video: https://bit.ly/37tipOz=====================================================Feel free to subscribe to my channel or follow me on Instagram for more content like this. 5 minutes, 10 minutes?? As with all paints and glues, the longer the better up to its optimal drying time. Ya, I've noticed I can work fairly soon on the Mr. Surfacer when using the Q-tip/Alcohol trick. Overall these three products are more for final finish paint surface preparation, small surface mars or minor seam filling. Fast Drying (6) Items (6) Not Specified (9) Items (9) Condition. I appreciate the advice yo use cellulose thinners but as I'm spraying indoors and if spraying it is anything like using it to clean brushes with the liquid thinner on them then it will stink to high heaven and I don't really think I could stand those sort of fumes. Give it a test spray, and then crack on after any adjustments. MR. FINISHING SURFACER 1500 BLACK. It sounds like one big preshade. New (21) Items (21) Used (1) Items (1) see all. The same thing if you put it on too thin, it shrinks up and requires another application. Paste as plain text instead, Oh no, I was saying that I assumed 500 is finer than the dissolved putty. before sanding. I think my regular squadron white putty was doing a better job filling up the seams. Being the ham fisted modeler that I am,I never realized that, but it makes sense. It's just not modelling without the smell . I wanna say I've done it after only 10 mins or so. You can post now and register later. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Maybe it has been reformulated but I don't know, it just seems like you could bond styrene with it, if you had to. I thought Mr. Surfacer was a primer for their acrylic paints. having not used 500 yet i can only assume the surfacer 500 is probably finer or thinner. Please check out their website at https://www.msmnstudio.com/.They're one the largest online GUNPLA and Kotobukiya hobby store. Actually now that I think about it, isn't Mr. Color Thinner (as mentioned by ThatJeffGuy above) basically lacquer thinner? General Discussion - NO POLITICS, Drying Time: Mr. Surfacer 500 out of bottle, Servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. I have used a couple of different brands, Zip Kicker and Flashtac. Real-Time Crime & Safety Alerts Amazon Subscription Boxes Top subscription . Mr. Surfacer 500 (gray): Also comes in a bottle or spray can form. Description Mr Finishing surface 1500 Grey ,ultra-fine Mr Surfacer ideal for final finishing ,rapid drying. Thanks for the work there Swanny! I use 1500 black quite often, thinned 1:1 - it's my "go to" primer these days. For now I have decided to use brush painting instead of airbrush, because my home environment is not suitable for spraying. erewhon1872 I don't sand it much myself but when I do, about an hour. It settles relatively rapidly, and it takes a surprising amount of mixing. I have not played with the dissolved putty yet. Followers 0. I haven't tried this yet so don't take my word for it without testing it on a scrapper. Your link has been automatically embedded. Order Ascending; Order Descending; espins1. If I don't wait long enough to sand though, it gets kinda gummy. JAN 1, 2023 - July 1, 2023. Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga, I've had the 1000 on my bench for a year now, and it really is fantastic stuff. Paste as plain text instead, It's easy! GSNeil Any tips on thinning ratio for this product? Scan this QR code to download the app now. Quote Bell209 Glue Required Members 44 posts Should be skim milk consistency or even a little thinner. I'm 1:1 ratio. Thin with Mr Color Thinner or Mr color Levelling Thinner and apply with an airbrush for best results. It also lasts for months or years in the bottle without going bad or hardening up simply shake and use. To add to what Jeff said, if you run a Q-tip saturated w/ nail polish remover (acetone based) over the putty, not only does it remove a lot of the unwanted putty, it greatly reduces drying to allowing for much quicker sanding. AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose, "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." February 9, 2014 in Tools 'n' Tips. .. 7.30 Add to Cart. For more information, please see our As far as CA accelerator, I have never had any problems with it crazing plastic. For my final coat before painting I spray Mr. Surfacer 1000 gray on the model. I haven't used 1500 grade (yet), but everything from 500 to 1200 and I usually thin with regular lacquer(cellulose) thinner, but more like a 30/70 surfacer to thinner ratio or even thinner. Wipe across the seam. Of course, I am sure that thickness plays and issue as well.I'd say average thickness for brush on over putty. Hey everyone, in this video I'm going to show you how I thin my paints and primer particularly the Mr. Surfacer 1500. I've only been using this stuff for filling a short time, but I suspect you are not mixing the 500 enough. Then after 36 hour dry I give it a light go over with a 6000 grit cloth. The answeris simply Testors Liquid Cement mixed with Squadron Green Putty in a mix of some one part liquid cement to five parts Green Stuff this is a thick coarse mixture that can be applied and then pulled, scratched, stampedor tacked to give various looks or cast surface features and thess variedmixtures readily adhereor bindto the plastic's surface. I'm especially glad to see that you can airbrush the 1200. I find filling gaps with Mr Surfacer problematic, as it tends to shrink away from sharp edges as it dries. Or is it based on something else? It worked well under the ghost grey for my F-15 but less well under the camouflage colours for the Mig-23. $15.99 $ 15. Thinning ratio for airbrushing seems to be 1 paint : 1.5 thinner. Printed at 1/10 scale, primer was applied with airbrush. I don't suffer from insanityI enjoy every minute of it! Lays down as smooth as a baby's butt . Started spraying the gray stuff through my airbrush and liked that much better. Im glad this came up, I just ordered a jar of 1500 black to use as primer. Youre seeing this ad based on the products relevance to your search query. Supplied in a 40ml jar, Mr. Surfacer 1500 can be used straight from the jar using a spotter paintbrush, cotton swab/bud (que tip) or toothpick for filling in bumps, scratches and pits. I have both the Mr Colour ordinary and levelling thinner and I think they can be used to thin this I'd assume 50/50, but would like that to be confirmed? Overnight is plenty. 0000000843 00000 n But even with using 500 for shallow scratches they still reappear after a couple of days and I have to fill them up again. I have an old single action Badger that is dedicated to Mr. Surfacer. Clear editor. I really like the way it applies and looks. I tried nail-polish remover once and it didn't work..must have been non-acetone based. Hey guysunder normal conditions (ie 60F), can I expect Mr. Surfacer 500 to dry in around an hours or so time or is the period of time shorter? I've gotten to where I use a Q-tip and isopropyl alchohol to "sand" it after 10-15 minutes. 40ml Bottle Sorry that I have not been keeping up with this post recently. I have read that if you go back over the Mr Surfacer with the Levelling Thinners it will smooth the Mr Surfacer even more. I normally use a cotton swab soaked in Mr Color thinner 110 and rub the surfacer until I get the "fill" I want and it feathers nicely. That stuff dries PDQ. If it needs more sanding after that, I give it an hour to avoid that "roll-up" hks mentioned. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. "You can't have everything--where would you put it?". cellulose thinners but as I'm spraying indoors and if spraying it is anything like using it to clean brushes with the liquid thinner on them then it will stink to high heaven and I don't really think I could stand those sort of fumes. 11 0 obj<> endobj xref 11 18 0000000016 00000 n By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It's easy! The mix can also be made with Squadron White Putty (which is finer in texture) but the consistancy is a bit different and gives a less coarse texture finish than does the green putty version. The surface now has great 'bite' for paint application and shows any errors that can be addressed before final paint application layers Look to the surface texture that is also applied to the "Priest's front face" near the lights as an example of what can be achieved Mr. Surfacer 500is much thinner than this mixture I am proposing for readers to try but can be used directly on top of this ad hoc "green stuff" slurry.
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